It is curious that this seems to be highly associated with theological discussions. I had always heard it discussed in either pure philosophical terms or as a point of law.

Mind you, I'm not disputing that this argument could arise a lot in lay discussions about religion.

The weird part, to me, is that proof has nothing to do with religion, at all. Religion is all about *faith,* which by definition is to believe in something for which there is no proof (or at least, it hasn't been discovered, yet.)

If it's proven, then faith isn't involved. Merely recognition.