[identity profile] randwolf.livejournal.com 2010-07-03 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yay! Now, if only the New York Times would stop quoting the Competitive Enterprise Institute, as if they knew anything.

[identity profile] hitchkitty.livejournal.com 2010-07-03 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
Y'know, I've been wondering for a very, very long time now:
What exactly is the goal of the climate-change deniers?
What are they hoping for?

Deniers of evolution, I can at least understand their anxiety. It takes a certain mindset -- the mindset of a scientist -- to accept being wrong about something. Certainty is a comforting thing, and I can understand that. It's what drew me to mathematics.

But the climate-change deniers are not being told, "Your basic understanding of the world, every comforting story you've been told since the cradle, is wrong" so much as "Hey, we probably shouldn't be fucking up the environment quite so much".

...I mean, their philosophy seems to amount to:
"Oh, yeah? Well, we're gonna keep right on pissing in the soup, and you can't stop us! Neener-neener-neener!"

[identity profile] bigbumble.livejournal.com 2010-07-03 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
Even Clarence Darrow couldn't keep John Scopes from being convicted. There is some small progress in the world.

[identity profile] randwolf.livejournal.com 2010-07-09 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
BTW, coverage over at RealClimate: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/07/the-muir-russell-report/ . Good discussion of the practice of science in controversial issues, too: RealClimate is run by NASA researchers.