Oooo, and on a happier note!

[catsittingstill]

The Connecticut Supreme Court just legalized same-sex marriage!  See here and here.

Hurray!

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[pondside.livejournal.com]

Yippee

Lets hope this is the trend that continues...

[catsittingstill.livejournal.com]

I think it's very interesting that the Religious Right is losing ground among their young people on this issue, and not on abortion.

But hey, they are losing ground on this issue, and that's great!

[patoadam]

We live in historic times. News like this gives me hope that our country may be heading in the right direction after all, despite the horrible mistakes we've made in the last eight years. I hope that the Iraq War will eventually be overshadowed by the progress we are making in gay rights, in the same way that the Vietnam War, IMO, is now overshadowed by the progress we made in civil rights in approximately the same time period.

As you may know, there is a proposition on the California ballot that would amend the state Constitution to eliminate the right to same-sex marriage. Whether it is losing or winning depends on which poll you look at.

[catsittingstill.livejournal.com]

I have heard about the California proposition. I had also heard recently that it was starting to look as though it might pass. I will be saddened if it does. I think gay rights is making progress, and I'm pretty sure it will eventually win in California, but I worry that it's much harder to undo an unjust law than to undo an unjust situation not enshrined in law.

[patoadam]

Upon further thought, I think I may have overstated my case when I wrote:

the Vietnam War, IMO, is now overshadowed by the progress we made in civil rights in approximately the same time period.

I bet the Vietnamese don't agree with my statement.

[janeg.livejournal.com]

Yay!!! Americans shouldn't have to come to Toronto to get married, though they sure are welcome if they want to get married in Toronto.

[catsittingstill.livejournal.com]

:-) Maybe they should get married in Toronto, but have their marriages recognized in the States when they come back from their honeymoons?

[pocketnaomi.livejournal.com]

I have to admit, I didn't originally take to the state-by-state strategy, but I'm starting to believe in it!

[catsittingstill.livejournal.com]

I'd rather see it happen at the Federal level, but maybe we need to have it in a few states first, so people can see it won't be TEOTWAWKI (the end of the world as we know it).

[pocketnaomi.livejournal.com]

I'd rather see it happen at the Federal level too, partially because the Constitutional scholar in me wants to shake people by the shoulders and ask them, "What part of 'Full Faith And Credit' didn't you understand?!" But I remember the debates about which made more sense as a strategy, ten years or so ago. The arguments from principle were all on the side of the Federal approach; the one great argument on the part of the state-by-state strategists was, "This way has a hope in hell of working within our lifetimes." I wasn't convinced at the time that either way had a hope in hell of working within our lifetimes, so at that time I sided with the Federalists. I'm starting to be convinced that the state-by-staters were right on the pragmatics of it.